we had the president take us to libya and say it was a war. we were killing, but not dying. so that was not a war. ok, what i am saying is whistleblowers have the ability to avert a disastrous, hopeless, bloody war and not only that one. iraq could have been stopped that way by anyone of a thousand people who knew what we were getting into. not one of whom told the truth. nor did any -- actually, there were in that particular case, unlike vietnam, a couple of reporters, walter pincus and few others, some dissenters talking about the lack of evidence for wmd's. but the leaks, the top seek it -- the top secret leaks to judith miller and michael gordon that there were wmd's, that there were cylinders and dealings to get yellowcake for saddam, that was all over the front page of "the new york ," and that got us into the war. so the reporters in washington failed across the board on iraq in exactly the same way they had failed years before on vietnam. and the people in the government all failed to carry out their oath to the constitution all without any exception known to me exce